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Spotlight Interview: Matching in Neurology

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April 4, 2012

A Neurology Attending’s Perspective:

From an interview with a neurology attending at the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor.

Part of an interview series entitled, “Specialty Spotlights“, which asks medical students’ most burning questions to physicians of every specialty. See what doctors from every specialty had to say about why they chose their specialty and how to match in their residency.

How competitive is the neurology match?

Fairly competitive for the top programs, but there are enough good programs that most good students should match well. Average programs and lower tend to fill with foreign medical graduates, so overall the competition is probably below average.

What are residencies looking for in a neurology applicant?

Despite the reputation for being a less-competitive match, Neuro residents literally have patients lives put in their hands fairly frequently, and often when nobody else in the hospital has a clue what to do. Thus, it is imperative that the residents be extremely responsible and capable of learning how to handle things like acute stroke, status epilepticus, and other neurological crises. Oftentimes other physicians will completely miss the diagnosis and it is YOUR job to save the person’s life. A potential resident must be able to handle that.

What do you wish you knew before application/interview season?

Even though it is less-competitive overall, it IS competitive for the top programs, so don’t be cocky. And remember—ALL residencies just want someone who really, really REALLY wants to learn and take care of patients.

What should students look for in a neurology residency?

There MUST be an ICU experience of some sort, where you take care of neurological emergencies. There must be a mix of strong outpatient clinics,neurological consults, and inpatient neurology. I cannot imagine how you can become a neurologist in a place that only does consults, and not have your own patients.

What other advice do you have for students applying to neurology residency?

To be completely honest, a lot of people make fun of neurology…right up until the point that they need you. And you know what? Everybody always eventually needs you. Then they call you and are scared to death and you walk in like a hotshot and have all the answers. Patient’s seizing? Big deal. Acute stroke? tPA and let’s go. Mental status changes in a 85 y/o demented man with sepsis? Uh… sure, I’ll do that consult ( in like 3 MINUTES!!) Unexplained progressive weakness? Oh yeah, this is the fun part.

Neuro’s awesome.

Editor's Note: Applying for residency or preparing for your interviews? I highly recommend First Aid for the Match, The Successful Match: 200 Rules to Succeed in the Residency Match, and The Residency Interview: How To Make the Best Possible Impression .

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Spotlight Interview: Why Did You Choose Neurology?

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March 31, 2012

by Andrew

A Neurology Attending's Perspective: From an interview with a neurology attending at the University of Michigan, in Ann Arbor

Part of an interview series entitled, "Specialty Spotlights", which asks medical students' most burning questions to physicians of every specialty. See what doctors from every specialty had to say about why they chose their specialty and how to match in their residency.

What attracted you to neurology?

The subject matter was, and still remains, the most interesting part of medicine to me. I love figuring out where the problem is—the “localize the lesion” question that is the heart of neurology. But perhaps the most important is that I enjoy the day-to-day interactions with patients: the types of questions they have, the exams I have to do, the problems we have to deal with… I saw what it was like in med school, and realized this was my favorite by far.

Describe a neurologist's typical work day?

A clinic day is 8-5, with fairly long visits for each patient. I get 30 minutes for a follow up and 60 for a new. Most of the visit is getting the history. In the hospital (teaching hospital with residents), rounds are usually mid-morning, consults in the afternoon.

What type of lifestyle can a neurologist expect?

There are a few neurological emergencies, which are uncommon but usually end up going to an ICU right away. You can pick a subspecialty that has minimal emergencies. Most private jobs I see have call q 4-6. However, call is usually from home, answering questions. The biggest determinant of lifestyle is reimbursement. If you have a billable procedure like EMG, botox, EEG, sleep studies, you can pay your salary quite easily and have a very relaxed schedule—probably 50 hours a week at most. Without a procedure, much more time is necessary, as the visits can last a long time so you may have long clinic hours. 60 hours or so. Call may be q4-6 but I rarely see attending neurologists in the hospital after 9 PM or before 7 AM. Usually call is handled from home.

What is the potential salary of a neurologist?

A private neurologist will start at about $200-250K. They will need some procedure (EEG, EMG, sleep studies, botox, etc) to be able to maintain that without a terrible clinic schedule.

What is the job market like for neurology?

I get advertisements for neurology positions all over the country, all the time.

What are the potential downsides of neurology that students should be aware of?

Seeing patients in clinic takes longer than most specialties but bills the same, which can hurt the reimbursement a lot. Most neurologists need some sub-specialty training to get a procedure like EMG or EEG. In a private hospital, you stand the risk of being consulted on every mental status change, which is rarely neurologic. They are easy consults, but could make call very annoying. Most neurologists just tell the consulting team to get a bunch of tests that night and then see the patient in the AM.

Every specialty has a reputation, how do you respond to the reputation of neurologists?

There are two. The first reputation is that neuro cannot fix anything, only diagnose it. This is now an archaic idea, since we now can treat almost every disease to some degree: we have acute stroke treatments (tPA), many MS treatments, and neurological diseases are one of the top areas of drug research in all companies. The second is a reverse reputation (one that we notice ourselves about other physicians): most physicians are terrified of Neurology, and would often much rather consult us than do a neuro exam. This is a shame, and leads to some disappointing situations. But it also generates a bit of an “outsider” image between us and all other specialties, somewhat similar to the disconnection between medicine and surgery.

What else would you tell medical students who are considering neurology?

If you like figuring out problems like a medical detective, and if you are a very observant person who likes little details,neurology should be at the top of your list.